Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ

Corrections / Retractions

Oh most sweet Lord Jesus, for the sake of your most bitter suffering, have mercy on us poor sinners! Oh most sweet Blessed Virgin Mary, pray for us poor sinners now and at the hour of our death!

Many saints have made retractions or corrections of their mistakes, since they are only humans and have erred on many things. We are no saints, of course, not even close to it, but we wish to correct some mistakes we have made during the time of our conversion. All should understand that I, Markus Elias Talani; and I, Krystian Manczak; and I Ville Veikko Hietanen, were raised as protestants, and have lived like pagans for most of our lives, piling mortal sin upon mortal sin. Our parents taught us a little about God, but they nevertheless allowed us to sin mortally without correction and sat us and our siblings in front of a TV, so it is easy to see how miserably we turned out to be, though this is of course no excuse for our many sins and mistakes. This protestant upbringing, or rather pagan upbringing, made us do many errors even at the time we had realized (or were beginning to realize) that the Catholic Church was the one true Church. We are from Sweden, and Sweden is one of the most atheistic and secular countries on the face of the earth, and so, our conversion to the Catholic Church’s laws and rules was badly made by us in the beginning, due to the lack of fear of God and the resistance from family and friends, the world and our own desires - that sought to draw us back into sin and the world.

First, we wish to ask forgiveness for the many videos we made and posted on YouTube in the beginning stages of our first website (www.saintbirgitta.com) about six years ago (2007). There were a couple of grave problems with those videos because of our lack of learning in Catholic virtue and dogma. Luckily most of those videos have been removed for a long time, but many are still out there which we cannot do anything about. The first sin that we made was that we allowed girls with improper makeup and tight and lascivious clothing and pants to appear in those videos. Some men was also improperly clothed and styled. There is no excuse for that, and we ask forgiveness of all, especially those who were offended or tempted. We were just not as attentive with those problems then as we are today, although this problem could obviously happen again, especially if one considers that most of the footage we use are borrowed from other sources, and are not originally our own. Unless one is extremely attentive when making videos, bad scenes might be included by mistake. We pray that it will not happen again.

There were also some problems that was not acceptable according to the Catholic Church’s laws. One video I (Markus Talani) posted contradicted that Jesus was born on the 25th of December, and that this custom of celebrating Jesus’ birthday on this day came from a pagan custom. Protestants sadly deceived me, and I recant such abominable lies.

In another video it was mentioned that the sabbath was on the Saturday instead of the Sunday. This was of course an error since the Lord changed the Sabbath to the day of His Resurrection: Sunday.

Other videos we posted made it look like as though aliens from another planet really existed and that they now live on that planet (Nibiru*) and that they soon will be returning. We did not understand that this is contrary to the Catholic Church. We are not aware of any dogma that proclaims that there are no other beings like aliens, but since the Church never have mentioned this as far as we know, it is reasonable to assume that this is wrong. We believe aliens, UFOs and things applied to such things are deceits from demons masquerading as aliens in order to make humanity believe that they were made by another race of beings instead of God. These demonic aliens have taught vile doctrines such as: that Hell does not exist, that man are gods, and that the bible is outdated, among other things. It is almost a new religion, connected with new age, that we see unfolding before our eyes. Satan seems to have some bigger plan behind this, but for now there are only speculations to give.

* Some old videos we had posted about this Planet Nibiru, or Planet X, in the past said that this planet would appear, or be visible, in or around the 2008-2012 time-frame (since this was what the people or "sources" said at the time...) Well, that never happened! We still believe this planet of doom could be true, since this Planet (or Comet) fits in so well with so many ancient prophecies concerning the last days. Whatever the case, the time-line obviously have been incorrect so far.

Another video I (Ville Hietanen) posted about 5.5 years ago (mid 2007), spoke of Our Lady of Fatima and the Miracle of the Sun, as though it was a hoax, and that the Miracle of the Sun really only was made by a UFO. This is of course wrong, and I who posted that video, now know differently. This particular video was about the topic of UFOs and that they are demons. This video was made by a protestant. I posted his video on my YouTube channel. At that time I had no knowledge of Fatima, or the Miracle of the Sun, or even the most basic teachings of the Catholic Church or history, so when the Fatima part in that particular video occurred, I thought nothing special about it. Now I know better, and I apologize to all those whom may have been deceived by that film, or by any other film I have carelessly posted during the past years.

We have also posted a lot of protestant movies on YouTube (and I, Ville Hietanen, even shared many of the same erroneous videos on file sharing sites), that teaches protestant theology, or heresies, such as Salvation by Faith alone, etc. Many of our videos have also presented the Vatican II “Church” and its Antipopes as real popes and as the real Catholic Church, which was wrong. We have also posted many sermons of protestants. Even though they were good sermons, it was still made by heretics, which we did not specify or make clear, thus indicating to others that we might have agreed with them or shared their belief. We do not agree with protestantism nor do we encourage anyone to listen to their material since people can be deceived by them, since they are heretics.

We have also used bad music in many of our videos, all from hard rock snippets to psychedelic trance, since we were very worldly back then. We apologize for having used such ungodly music.

We have also (and may have used without being able to verify) many scenes and pictures in our films that have and may not have been real, that was presented as if it were real. The problem is that many of the things we made videos about (the paranormal, supernatural, ghosts, aliens, etc.) couldn’t be confirmed, so many errors may have been presented.
Some images though in our films we know have not been real, but these images were not used in order to deceive people (except perhaps in order to get people to view the film), but rather for the purpose of having a good sensational thumbnail that would get millions of views compared with perhaps a few thousand. In the earlier days of YouTube, it was possibly to get a thumbnail of your choosing by putting an image at certain spots in the video. This we took advantage off. By having done so, however, some images may have appeared to have been presented as if they were real even though they weren’t.

The number of errors or even heresies in the many videos we have posted from 2007 up to 2009 are too numerous for us to remember. (We have since stopped posting videos frequently and only now post videos rarely that hopefully, contain no errors.) Many of our videos can still be found on YouTube and other video sharing sites with our homepage in them, since other people have taken our videos and posted them on their channels as well. If you have any questions or remarks about a certain video you may have encountered not listed here, please feel free to email us about it. If we have done wrong, we will gladly tell you about it.


About 7 years ago until at least 4 years ago (2005- late 2008) (when we definitely understood it to be false and recanted this abominable heresy), we had some gnostic tendencies about gnostic theology. We have also taught these gnostic heresies to other people and (sadly) deceived them into Gnostic tendencies. Linked to these gnostic heresies was our criticism of the Old Testament. We both criticized all of the books of the Old Testament, and the God of the Old Testament, and said that the Old Testament books was false and inspired by the devil. We even at one point called the God of the Old Testament Satan, and that Satan created this world. This sadly happened because we interpreted the Holy Bible in our own prideful protestant way. We can only ask forgiveness for being deceived and being deceivers. This is another example why people shouldn’t be allowed to read the Bible unless it’s a correctly translated Catholic Bible (as the Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible) with Catholic commentaries that explains all the passages according to the Catholic Church’s teachings, and that people otherwise could be interpreting wrongly if they read another Bible without these commentaries. Beware of the new modernistic Vatican II “Catholic” Bibles with commentaries, since many of them may contain heretical or erroneous teachings.


Another fault we had made is that we, in the past, always condemned sexual relations (for any other motive than procreation) to be always mortally sinful and unlawful in the past up until about late 2010, which was when we learned about that it may not always be a mortal sin (but it could still be a mortal sin depending on the intention of the spouses), according to the teaching of the Church and the Saints.

For a husband and wife are allowed to quite the concupiscence as a secondary motive after the first motive of procreation. This is the Church’s teaching proclaimed by Pope Pius XI. This means to put down the flames of concupiscence and not to inflame it in any sinful way. The goal is to get the spouse to Heaven, to glorify God, and sanctify one self, and not primarily about pleasure. The gravity of sin when inflaming concupiscence depends on the thoughts and actual deeds that a couple consent to during the act of marriage. But husband and wife are never allowed to prevent the conception of a child in any way, either through contraceptives, or by withdrawal, or by the use of NFP. (See The unanimous consent of the Fathers unanimously teach that one must always desire to beget children in order for the marital act to be lawful).

We had also said that having marital relations only for the sake of lust was a mortal sin, but it seems that it can be a venial sin, fault and defect. For sure, doing acts above what is necessary for conception to occur in the marital act, can be a mortal sin, but if the act is natural, yet done for the sake of lust only, it seems to be at least a venial sin, fault and defect, as the following Church teachings affirm:

Pope Innocent XI, Various Errors on Moral Matters Condemned in a Decree (# 9), March 4, 1679: “THE ACT OF MARRIAGE EXERCISED FOR PLEASURE ONLY IS ENTIRELY FREE OF ALL FAULT AND VENIAL DEFECT.” (Denz. 1159) – Condemned statement by Pope Innocent XI.

St. Augustine, On Marriage and Concupiscence, Book 1, Chapter 17: “It is, however, one thing for married persons to have intercourse only for the wish to beget children, which is not sinful: it is another thing for them to desire carnal pleasure in cohabitation, but with the spouse only, which involves venial sin. For although propagation of offspring is not the motive of the intercourse, there is still no attempt to prevent such propagation, either by wrong desire or evil appliance.”

As we can see above, it is at least a venial fault, sin or defect to have marital relations only for lustful motives. This teaching of Blessed Pope Innocent XI, however, does not say that it is only a venial sin to perform the normal, natural and procreative marital act for pleasure only, but merely condemns the unnatural and selfish opinion and heresy that this vile lustful act performed for pleasure only “is entirely free of all fault and venial defect”. This teaching of Pope Innocent XI does not specify whether even the normal, natural and procreative “act of marriage exercised for pleasure onlyis a mortal or a venial sin, and so, it is still possible that this act could be a mortal sin rather than a venial sin.

From this can be learned then that a couple must have a reason for coming together during the marital act. Thus they may not just come together for whatever lustful reason they may come to think of, for that would be (at least, if not more than) a venial sin and defect, according to Catholic teaching. Faults, venial sins and defects open up the soul to graver sins and that is why one must always guard oneself very carefully from falling into faults, sins and defects. A couple can only lawfully participate in the marital act (without any sin or defect) if it’s done for the primary purpose of having children and, if the spouses choose this, followed by the secondary ends (such as the quieting of concupiscence). The secondary end of quieting concupiscence can follow the primary motive of having children if the spouses choose this, but the secondary end is not needed to lawfully complete the marital act in the same way as the primary motive of raising children, nor is the motive of quieting concupiscence meritorious even though it is allowed.

Pope Pius XI, Casti Connubii (# 17), Dec. 31, 1930: “THE PRIMARY END OF MARRIAGE IS THE PROCREATION AND THE EDUCATION OF CHILDREN... For in matrimony as well as in the use of matrimonial rights there are also secondary ends, such as mutual aid, the cultivation of mutual love, and the quieting of concupiscence which husband and wife are not forbidden to consider, so long as they are subordinated to the primary end and so long as the intrinsic nature of the act is preserved.”

Since many couples today, and especially those who call themselves by the name of Catholic, inflame their lust to the fullest both before, during and after the procreative act just as they have been taught by their apostate Vatican II Church and perverted evil theologians, we must condemn this idea in specific detail.

Notice the words of Pope Pius XI which says that the: “quieting of concupiscence” is allowed. Those who thus commit acts which are not necessary for conception to occur in the normal and natural marital act absolutely commit sin, since they inflame their flesh in a totally sinful way. Therefore, the inflaming of concupiscence is condemned as sinful because it subordinates the secondary end (or purpose) of marriage and the marriage act (the quieting of concupiscence) to other ends. It subordinates the secondary end of marriage to other things (lust), by deliberately attempting to avoid the normal primary procreative act as their first or only act of marriage while having marital relations. The inflaming of concupiscence therefore inverts the order established by God Himself. It does the very thing that Pope Pius XI solemnly teaches may not lawfully be done. And this point crushes all of the arguments made by those who defend unnatural, unlawful, non-procreative forms of for-or-after-play outside of normal intercourse, because all of the arguments made by those who defend inflaming the flesh, focus on the concupiscence and lust within the marriage act itself, and not on the primary or secondary ends of lawful intercourse (the procreation and education of children; and the quieting of concupiscence).

So what these lustful couples then do by enhancing their pleasure during the marital act, is not the only lawful quieting of concupiscence that Pope Pius XI spoke about, but is the exact opposite, since they first inflame their lust and concupiscence before putting it out, and are therefore then, without a doubt, committing mortal sin. For if coming together only for normal lustful motives is at least a venial sin according to Catholic teaching, what then would those unnatural and unnecessary acts be that these lustful people live out during the heat of their shameful lust?

Various Errors on Moral Subjects, Condemned in a decree of the Holy Office, March 4, 1679: “THE ACT OF MARRIAGE EXERCISED FOR PLEASURE ONLY IS ENTIRELY FREE OF ALL FAULT AND VENIAL DEFECT.” (Denz. 1159) -Condemned statement by Pope Innocent XI.

Although a venial sin does not separate us from God as does a mortal sin, a venial sin can still (if practiced with the intention of persevering) lead a person to Hell since it might lead him into committing other sins and, since he did not care to stop doing what he knew was a danger to his soul, and even took great delight in it, though he knew it was offending God. To consent to faults and defects, or deliberate venial sins, is of course very bad. We can learn this truth from Jesus Christ himself in St. Bridget’s Revelations:

Moreover, know that just as all mortal sins are very serious, so too a venial sin is made mortal if a human being delights in it with the intention of persevering.” (Jesus speaking to St. Bridget, Book 7, Chapter 27).

For the smallest sin, lusted after, is enough to damn anyone from the kingdom of Heaven, who does not repent.” (Jesus speaking to St. Bridget, Book 1, Chapter 32).

So, to deliberately live in sins are truly a gateway to damnation and into committing more grave sins. An even more clearer demonstration of this can be seen in another chapter of St. Bridget’s revelations.

The Son of God speaks to the bride (St. Bridget): “What are you worried and anxious about?“ She answered: “I am afflicted by various useless thoughts that I cannot get rid of, and hearing about your terrible judgment upsets me.” The Son answered: “This is truly just. Earlier you found pleasure in worldly desires against my will, but now different thoughts are allowed to come to you against your will.

“But have a prudent fear of God, and put great trust in me, your God, knowing for certain that when your mind does not take pleasure in sinful thoughts but struggles against them by detesting them, then they become a purgation and a crown for the soul. But if you take pleasure in committing even a slight sin, which you know to be a sin, and you do so trusting to your own abstinence and presuming on grace, without doing penance and reparation for it, know that it can become a mortal sin. Accordingly, if some sinful pleasure of any kind comes into your mind, you should right away think about where it is heading and repent...

“...God hates nothing so much as when you know you have sinned but do not care, trusting to your other meritorious actions, as if, because of them, God would put up with your sin, as if he could not be glorified without you, or as if he would let you do something evil with his permission, seeing all the good deeds you have done, since, even if you did a hundred good deeds for each wicked one, you still would not be able to pay God back for his goodness and love. So, then, maintain a rational fear of God and, even if you cannot prevent these thoughts, then at least bear them patiently and use your will to struggle against them. You will not be condemned because of their entering your head, unless you take pleasure in them, since it is not within your power to prevent them.

“Again, maintain your fear of God in order not to fall through pride, even though you do not consent to the thoughts. Anyone who stands firm stands by the power of God alone. Thus fear of God is like the gateway into heaven. Many there are who have fallen headlong to their deaths, because they cast off the fear of God and were then ashamed to make a confession before men, although they had not been ashamed to sin before God. Therefore, I shall refuse to absolve the sin of a person who has not cared enough to ask my pardon for a small sin. In this manner, sins are increased through habitual practice, and a venial sin that could have been pardoned through contrition becomes a serious one through a person’s negligence and scorn, as you can deduce from the case of this soul who has already been condemned.

After having committed a venial and pardonable sin, he augmented it through habitual practice, trusting to his other good works, without thinking that I might take lesser sins into account. Caught in a net of habitual and inordinate pleasure, his soul neither corrected nor curbed his sinful intention, until the time for his sentencing stood at the gates and his final moment was approaching. This is why, as the end approached, his conscience was suddenly agitated and painfully afflicted because he was soon to die and he was afraid to lose the little, temporary good he had loved. Up until a sinner’s final moment God abides him, waiting to see if he is going to direct his free will away from his attachment to sin.

However, if a soul’s will is not corrected, that soul is then confined by an end without end. What happens is that the devil, knowing that each person will be judged according to his conscience and intention, labors mightily at the end of life to distract the soul and turn it away from rectitude of intention, and God allows it to happen, since the soul refused to remain vigilant when it ought to have...”

(The Revelations of St. Bridget of Sweden, Book 3, Chapter 19).

So, then, what does God think of the couple who comes together during the marital act in sinful lust and concupiscence and about the couple who works on the inflaming of their lust rather than the quieting of their lust?

They seek the warmth and sexual lust that will perish and love the flesh that will be eaten by worms... When the couple comes to bed, my Spirit leaves them immediately and the spirit of impurity approaches instead because they only come together for the sake of lust and do not discuss or think about anything else with each other. But my mercy is still with them if they will be converted to me. Because of my great love, I place a living soul created by my power into their seed. Sometimes I let evil parents give birth to good children, but more often, evil children are born of evil parents, since these children imitate the evil and unrighteous deeds of their parents as much as they are able and would imitate it even more if my patience allowed them. Such a married couple will never see my face unless they repent. For there is no sin so heavy or grave that penitence and repentance does not wash it away.” (St. Bridget’s Revelations, Book 1, Chapter 26).

A couple may therefore then not do anything before, during or after the procreative act that is against the primary or secondary purpose of marriage: the begetting of children and the quieting of concupiscence. So, contrary to modern day notion and common opinion (even amongst those who dare to call themselves Catholic), a husband and a wife are never allowed to help themselves with their hands or do other things to enhance their lust, or in this way make themselves “ready” before the act (as they so call it and their sinful excuse is). If a couple really believes in God, they should pray to God before coming together, and God would hear their prayers and make them ready without any further need by the couple to inflame their lust in a sinful way. Lubricants are of course also acceptable and the non sinful way to use if there is a problem to complete the marital act. However, lubricants that increase sexual pleasure and that now are being manufactured and sold are of course totally unacceptable. Likewise, if a woman was not able to quiet her concupiscence before the fulfillment of the procreative act, it is unlawful for her (or her husband) to help herself afterwards. If husband and wife engage in unlawful activities such as masturbation, or any other unnecessary act, they committed a mortal sin. Barren couples and people with defects or old age still fulfills the primary end of marriage through normal intercourse by wishing for children and by not being against conception if it should occur. Husband and wife are forbidden to indulge in unnecessary acts, e.g. to masturbate themselves or their spouse or to fondle with their hands in improper, shameful places (like the genital and breast area) and in this way enhance their lust. Masturbation, lewd or sensual kisses and touches is as forbidden during the procreative act as it is at any other time for any person. To avoid falling into mortal sin, a couple need to learn to pray to God for relief in their concupiscence and lust. If a couple really want help from God, He will help them and remove the concupiscence and lust from them. It would also help very much to offer up penances to God like fasting and eating less tasty food in order to acquire this goal. These small penances coupled with spiritual reading and prayer will help a couple stem their sinful inclinations as long as they stay out of mortal and venial sin.

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It is of greatest importance that husband and wife are not influenced by the evil demonic teachings that is rampant in the secular world and even amongst those who call themselves “Catholic” or even traditional “Catholic”. These people will tell you things such as: “That almost nothing is wrong in the marital act so long as the primary purpose of the act was achieved at some point. Whatever happens before, during or afterwards, was part of that act and therefore licit and permitted. — But this is clearly false and have been refuted with Catholic Dogma (Pope Pius XI), and Catholic teaching condemning the idea that the marital act - done for pleasure only - was without any fault, sin and defect (see below). Anyone therefore that listens to or follows these demonic peoples teachings or agrees with them will lose their souls, since they are rejecting the natural law God has imprinted on their hearts.

Various Errors on Moral Subjects, Condemned in a decree of the Holy Office, March 4, 1679: “THE ACT OF MARRIAGE EXERCISED FOR PLEASURE ONLY IS ENTIRELY FREE OF ALL FAULT AND VENIAL DEFECT.” (Denz. 1159) -Condemned by Pope Innocent XI.

St. Augustine, On Marriage and Concupiscence, Book 1, Chapter 17: “It is, however, one thing for married persons to have intercourse only for the wish to beget children, which is not sinful: it is another thing for them to desire carnal pleasure in cohabitation, but with the spouse only, which involves venial sin. For although propagation of offspring is not the motive of the intercourse, there is still no attempt to prevent such propagation, either by wrong desire or evil appliance.”


There are also a couple of uncertainties we had with the old article “Natural Family Planning (NFP)” and “Sexual Pleasure is Lust” that we had posted on our sites that we now wish to discuss. One thing we had written was that a man and a woman does not necessarily need to feel any physical pleasure or concupiscence during the procreative act. With other words, we said that a couple should strive to not feel concupiscence or pleasure during the marital act, and that they might be handed over to the devil if they did feel concupiscence. We said that God will grant this gift of not feeling concupiscence to a person desiring it and praying for it as long as the person was sincere, but this may not be correct since this special gift is probably given to only a very few people. It is true that a couple should strive as much as they can to minimize their sensual pleasures, but one is not handed over to the devil for feeling sexual pleasure or for not being granted the gift of not feeling sexual pleasure. It only makes it easier to be handed over to the devil. Many are handed over to the devil before, during, or after the marital act though, but this is only when they do more than what is necessary to complete the procreative act by performing acts such oral sex or masturbation of self or spouse or if their only purpose is to satisfy their lust, or if they consent to thoughts that are sinful. For we can clearly see how persons that are living in deliberate venial sins are handed over to the devil in St. Bridget’s Revelations.

Jesus speaking to St. Bridget:Moreover, know that just as all mortal sins are very serious, so too a venial sin is made mortal if a human being delights in it with the intention of persevering... Therefore, know for very certain that as often as they daub their faces with antimony and other extraneous coloring [makeup], some of the infusion of the Holy Spirit is diminished in them and the devil draws nearer to them. In fact, as often as they adorn themselves in disorderly and indecent clothing and so deform their bodies, the adornment of their souls is diminished and the devil’s power is increased.” (St. Bridget’s Revelations, Book 7, Chapter 27).

Most couples who sin in the marriage act undoubtedly also fall for the sins of vanity, immodest clothing, and use of makeup condemned by Jesus Christ above, since these people really are lovers of the flesh, and not of God. However, in the above statement, we can clearly see how those people who commit deliberate venial sins are in fact diminishing their love of God, and beauty of soul, and that these people in fact are handed over to the devil for their sins: “some of the infusion of the Holy Spirit is diminished in them and the devil draws nearer to them.” This is an important point to remember. For as often as a couple goes farther than what is licit or permitted (non-sinful) in the procreative act, they always commit a sin (at least venially), and will thus as a necessity be drawing closer to the devil (unless repentance is followed). Therefore, it is of the greatest importance that you learn to control your lust. Risking eternal damnation for a momentary, deliberate venial or mortal pleasure or sin is not worth it, and is a horribly bad choice to make.

Jesus Christ speaking to St. Bridget: “Therefore, two holes will be opened in him. Through the first there will enter into him every punishment earned for his least sin up to his greatest, inasmuch as he exchanged his Creator for his own lust. Through the second there will enter into him every kind of pain and shame, and no divine consolation or charity will ever come to him, inasmuch as he loved himself rather than his Creator. His life will last forever and his punishment will last forever, for all the saints have turned away from him.’ My bride, see how miserable those people will be who despise me and how great will be the pain they purchase at the price of so little pleasure!(St. Bridget’s Revelations, Book 2, Chapter 9).

So, the more pleasure and sensual gratification a person seek to derive from the sexual act, the more will the devil’s power over him be increased, and the more the sin is increased (with the intention of persevering), the more the devil’s power over him is increasing also, until what was a venial and pardonable sin, becomes a mortal and damnable sin. Therefore, if you already understand that you live in deliberate venial sin with respect to sexual pleasure, you need to learn controlling your lust immediately, keeping it within the range of what is licit and permitted within a marriage, and not going any further. If you follow these things put down in this article, and in the updated Sexual Pleasure and Lust article, you will be keeping the marriage duty within the range of licit marital relations.

A couple then, when coming together, should not be concerned about the momentary pleasure they derive from the act, or be working on enhancing it in unusual ways, but should rather be focusing their mind on God and to love Him and please Him, by feeling close to Him. Consequently, if a couple wish to be perfect, they should pray to God to keep them from sinning during the act, and that they may produce offspring to the honor and glory of God, and that He might minimize the amount of pleasure they will feel during the act, so that they may not grow attached to it. God might grant this prayer to a couple if they so wish, but if they are not granted this gift (the begetting of children or the minimizing of pleasure), they should still be focusing their pleasure and love towards God, and not on themselves. God demands of us to not forget Him during the procreative act. People usually tend to forget about God when they have too much attention on themselves, or on their spouse, or the pleasure derived from different acts. We can read the following important points regarding this in the book of Tobias: “For they who in such manner receive matrimony, as to shut out God from themselves, and from their mind, and to give themselves to their lust, as the horse and mule, which have not understanding, over them the devil hath power.(Tobias 6:17).

Notice the word “from their mind”, in the mind (or heart) are usually all our thoughts, and God wishes us to have Him there. The best thing then, and which God demands of you, is to think about Him and to love Him during the whole procreative act, and husband and wife should not be ashamed of doing so. Is not God better or more worthy of being desired or lusted after than your husband or wife will ever be? The more a person loves God, the more will that person desire to be close to God, during all times. One of the greatest mistakes many couples undoubtedly do during the procreative act is that they strive to be close with their spouse rather than with God (who knows everything and sees everything), or that they rather think of pleasing their spouse more than pleasing God (who created them and redeemed them, yes even died for them).

Then Tobias exhorted the virgin, and said to her: Sara, arise, and let us pray to God today, and tomorrow, and the next day: because for these three nights we are joined to God: and when the third night is over, we will be in our own wedlock. For we are the children of saints, and we must not be joined together like heathens that know not God.” (Tobias 8:4-5)

Jesus tells us of the necessity of praying always (Lk 18:1). We are never to cease praying (1 Th 5:17). Thus, Christian married couples will always have marital relations in the context of prayer. Tobias prayer before relations with his wife is an example of this (Tb 8:4-8). In prayer, we express our weakness and God’s power (2 Cor 12:9) to rectify sinful problems in marital relations.

Praying the Rosary before, during and after intercourse is highly recommended since it is the most powerful prayer ever given to mankind. Granted, it might be hard to pray during the act, at least in a worthy and proper manner, but spouses should do their best to at least acknowledge the presence of God Almighty and His Mother and loving Them deeply during the act, by expressing loving words to God and His Blessed Mother, supplicating Them for Their help to resist sinful inclinations. Husband and wife should not be ashamed of having recourse to the Blessed Virgin and Our Lord during intercourse. In contrast, what better thing can there possibly be for a couple then to always have God and the thought of loving God in their minds during all times?

We can read the following interesting points of the importance of loving and thinking about God during the procreative act in St. Bridget’s Revelations:

The Mother of God speaks to St. Bridget about Her parents: “When an angel revealed to them that they would give birth to the Virgin from whom the salvation of the world would come, they would rather have died than to come together in carnal love; lust was dead in them. I assure you that when they did come together, it was because of divine love and because of the angel’s message, not out of carnal desire, but against their will and out of a holy love for God. In this way, my flesh was put together by their seed and through divine love.” (St. Bridget’s Revelations, Book 1, Chapter 9).

Although you will not be spared from feeling lust or concupiscence as it happened to Anna and Joachim, this should in no way hinder you from loving and desiring God during the procreative act, and should be the primary purpose along with love of children for a couple rather than desiring or lusting at your spouse. Most couples, however, choose to think about themselves or their spouse in an inordinate way and consequently to love themselves or their spouse during the procreative act. Anna and Joachim, however, clearly chose the best part by loving and thinking about God. If we think about God during the act, then our love will be directed towards Him, which is the best part. God’s love never dies! So it’s clearly a great mistake to seek love from a fleshly object that will rot and be eaten by worms in the grave rather than seeking it from God, who lives and reigns forever and ever! Husband and wife should thus love their spouse, their own, and their children’s souls, and not their bodies that will rot and be eaten by worms in the grave. This is an advice to those couples who wish to be perfect, as Anna and Joachim were perfect.

St. Jerome: “Do you imagine that we approve of any sexual intercourse except for the procreation of children? He who is too ardent a lover of his own wife is an adulterer [of his God and wife].”

St. Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica, Second Part of the Second Part, Q. 154, Art. 8: “And since the man who is too ardent a lover of his wife acts counter to the good of marriage if he use her indecently, although he be not unfaithful, he may in a sense be called an adulterer; and even more so than he that is too ardent a lover of another woman.”

Gratian, Medieval Marriage Law: “Also, Jerome, [in Against Jovinian, I]: C. 5. Nothing is more sordid than to make love to your wife as you would to an adulteress [that is, for mere passion and lust]. The origins of love are respectable, but its perversion is an enormity. §1. It gives no respectable motive for losing one’s self control. Hence, the Sentences of Sixtus says, "He is an adulterer who is too passionate a lover of his wife." Just as all passion for another’s wife is sordid, so also is excessive passion for one’s own. The wise man should love his wife reasonably, not emotionally. The mere stimulus of lust should not dominate him, nor should he force her to have sex. Nothing is more sordid than to make love to your wife as you would to an adulteress [that is, for mere pleasure and without any reasonable cause].”

As we can see above, he who loves his wife and the lust of the flesh too much, or in other words, he who loves his wife more than he loves God, is in fact an adulterer of his God and of his wife. Tell me, dear reader, whom do you love during the act of marriage, God, or your spouse? Have the thought of God or that He is present ever even entered your mind during intercourse? Have this absence of God’s presence in your thought also driven you into committing shameful sins by the inflaming of lust in unlawful ways? Indeed, those couples who doesn’t shut God out from themselves or their hearts during intercourse, will less likely fall into other sins during the act of marriage. For if it is God we love during intercourse, then it is him we are seeking to please, and not ourselves or our spouse.

He who has more love for his father or mother [or wife] than for me [Jesus] is not good enough for me; he who has more love for son or daughter than for me is not good enough for me.” (Matthew 10:37)

It is also evident that the offspring of holy and devout parents will receive a great many graces and benefits because of the parents’ holiness, and that according to many saints, lustful parents will effect their children in a negative way, inflicting sinful impulses upon them. Every parent who love their children or their future children should do their utmost to live in holiness, knowing that every act they will ever do can have an effect on their children, for better or for worse. Only in Hell will bad parents understand how their acts effected their children, but then it is sadly too late.

“Sometimes I [Jesus] let evil parents give birth to good children, but more often, evil children are born of evil parents, since these children imitate the evil and unrighteous deeds of their parents as much as they are able and would imitate it even more if my patience allowed them. Such a married couple will never see my face unless they repent. For there is no sin so heavy or grave that penitence and repentance does not wash it away.” (St. Bridget’s Revelations, Book 1, Chapter 26).

We can read in the Revelations of St. Bridget (as we’ve read further above) that the parents of The Blessed Virgin Mary was excluded from concupiscence and pleasure during the marital act (which then led to the Blessed Virgin), but we now think that this was a singular privilege that Anna and Joachim were given because of their holiness and because they where chosen by God to bring forth Our Lady, free from Original Sin (The Immaculate Conception), and that no other human beings except Anna and Joachim, will perhaps ever be granted this gift during the act.

Most people must thus as an evil product from the fall feel sexual pleasure and concupiscence during the procreative act, which may or will be tempting them to inflame their lust. The inflaming of concupiscence or lust almost always begins as a venial and pardonable sin, but often ends in mortal sin. After the fall, human offspring is produced by man and wife through human concupiscence and pleasure. But we certainly think that a couple can minimize their concupiscence or pleasure-seeking by following our advice in the updated NFP and Sexual Pleasure and Lust articles.

For a person to be Saved, he needs above all to love his God with all his mind, and with all his strength, and with all his heart (cf. Luke 10:27). If any person fails to do this (that is, that he loves something more than he loves God, whatever it may be or however small it may be), he will not be Saved. Therefore, it is of the greatest importance that people really start to do everything in their might and power to acquire and foster the love of God in their hearts, by loving God very deeply always and at all times, and by praying to God for help in loving Him worthily. If a person can have deep love for their husband or wife, or for their children, by having a desire for them constantly, then, likewise, should a person then have no problem in growing an even greater love and longing for God in his heart, if he only so wish and desires. We can read the following important words of loving and desiring God in context of marriage in the wonderful Revelations of St. Bridget of Sweden:

“For that reason, I [Jesus] wish to turn to the spiritual marriage, the kind that is appropriate for God to have with a chaste soul and chaste body. There are seven good things in it opposed to the evils mentioned above[1]: First, there is no desire for beauty of form or bodily beauty or lustful sights, but only for the sight and love of God. Second, there is no desire to possess anything else than what is needed to survive, and just the necessities with nothing in excess. Third, they avoid vain and frivolous talk. Fourth, they do not care about seeing friends or relatives, but I am their love and desire. Fifth, they desire to keep the humility inwardly in their conscience and outwardly in the way they dress. Sixth, they never have any will of leading lustful lives. Seventh, they beget sons and daughters for their God through their good behavior and good example and through the preaching of spiritual words.

“They preserve their faith undefiled when they stand outside the doors of my church where they give me their consent and I give them mine. They go up to my altar when they enjoy the spiritual delight of my Body and Blood in which delight they wish to be of one heart and one body and one will with me, and I, true God and man, mighty in heaven and on earth, shall be as the third with them and will fill their heart. The worldly spouses begin their marriage in lustful desires like brute beasts, and even worse than brute beasts! But these spiritual spouses begin in love and fear of God and do not bother to please anyone but me. The evil spirit fills and incites those in the worldly marriage to carnal lust where there is nothing but unclean stench, but those in the spiritual marriage are filled with my Spirit and inflamed with the fire of my love that will never fail them.”

[1] “But people in this age are joined in marriage for seven [evil] reasons: First, because of facial beauty. Second, because of wealth. Third, because of the despicable pleasure and indecent joy they get out of their impure intercourse. Fourth, because of feasts with friends and uncontrolled gluttony. Fifth, because of vanity in clothing and eating, in joking and entertainment and games and other vanities. Sixth, for the sake of procreating children but not to raise them for the honor of God or good works but for worldly riches and honor. Seventh, they come together for the sake of lust and they are like brute beasts in their lustful desires.”

(St. Bridget’s Revelations, Book 1, Chapter 26)

Only ungodly couples who would want to gratify their fleshly lust to the fullest during the act of marriage, without even once thinking about God, would wants to shut God out from their hearts or their minds. God is always present for every action we will ever make. Let’s get this concept imprinted on our minds.

“I am one God in three Persons, and one in Divinity with the Father and the Holy Spirit. Just as it is impossible for the Father to be separated from the Son and the Holy Spirit to be separated from them both, and as it is impossible for warmth to be separated from fire, so it is impossible for these spiritual spouses to be separated from me; I am always as the third with them. Once my body was ravaged and died in torments, but it will never more be hurt or die. Likewise, those who are incorporated into me with a true faith and a perfect will shall never die away from me; for wherever they stand or sit or walk, I am always as the third with them.” (St. Bridget’s Revelations, Book 1, Chapter 26).

Again, Jesus demands of us that we love Him even more than we love ourselves or our wife or our children:

He who has more love for his father or mother [or wife] than for me is not good enough for me; he who has more love for son or daughter than for me is not good enough for me.” (Matthew 10:37)

but I alone was all their good and pleasure and perfect delight.” (St. Bridget’s Revelations, on Adam and Eve before the fall – Book 1, Chapter 26).

The meaning of the immediate above passage isn’t that a couple couldn’t delight in or feel pleasure in/from God anymore, but rather that before the fall, God was the only delight and pleasure man ever felt and desired. After the fall, God had to compete with human concupiscence and fleshly lust. God is a jealous God (Exodus 20:5), and he wants us to love and desire Him above everything else. So to love God during all times, even during intercourse, is an advice to those couples who wish to be perfect, and for those couples who ardently longs and desires to be united with God through love. Consequently, those people who choose to despise and disregard what’s been covered here, seek then not to be united with the eternal, incorruptible God who lives and reigns forever and ever, but with a fleshly worthless object that will rot and be eaten by worms in a grave.

The Demon of Lust.
In the Book of Tobit or Tobias, we can clearly see that there is a demon of lust and that this demon hath power over individuals who come together for various lustful reasons during the marital act: “Then the angel Raphael said to him [Tobias]: Hear me, and I will shew thee who they are, over whom the devil can prevail. For they who in such manner receive matrimony, as to shut out God from themselves, and from their mind, and to give themselves to their lust, as the horse and mule, which have not understanding, over them the devil hath power.” People who thus shut God out from themselves and their hearts, and who do things during, before or after the marital act which they normally wouldn’t do if they really believed that God were present with them, over them the devil hath power. If concupiscence and lust is not controlled and in some sense fought against, it will almost always end in mortal sin, because all control is lost. “Go not after thy lusts, but turn away from thy own will.” (Eclcus. 18:30)


Another error we had written was that marital relations during pregnancy necessarily was a mortal sin. We even went so far as to indicate that this act in fact would be a sin against the natural law (since the woman cannot become pregnant again). This may not be correct, however, because Pope Pius XI in Casti Connubii says that a couple lawfully may have relations during even known infertile periods.

Pope Pius XI, Casti Connubii: “Nor are those considered as acting against nature who, in the married state, use their right in the proper manner, although on account of natural reasons either of time or of certain defects, new life cannot be brought forth. For in matrimony as well as in the use of matrimonial rights there are also secondary ends, such as mutual aid, the cultivation of mutual love, and the quieting of concupiscence which husband and wife are not forbidden to consider, so long as they are subordinated to the primary end and so long as the intrinsic nature of the act is preserved.”

Many have thought that Pope Pius XI’s encyclical Casti Connubii teaches that one may have marital relations lawfully during the wife’s pregnancy, but Casti Connubii is highly ambiguous and it is very hard to understand whether it teaches that one may lawfully have marital relations after the woman have become pregnant. Casti Connubii teaches that spouses can perform the marital act during those times when “new life cannot be brought forth”, and this is interpreted by some to give permission for spouses to perform the marital act during a woman’s pregnancy, but the Pope then goes on to state that this action is only lawful “SO LONG AS THEY ARE SUBORDINATED TO THE PRIMARY END [THAT IS, PROCREATION OF CHILDREN]” AND SO, THIS LAST SENTENCE SEEM TO TEACH THAT ONE MAY NOT PERFORM THE MARITAL ACT DURING THE PREGNANCY OF THE WOMAN, SINCE THE PRIMARY END AND MOTIVE OF PROCREATION IS ALREADY FULFILLED.

There is no official and dogmatic Papal Church teaching, as far as we know, that directly teaches that marital relations during a pregnancy is a sin, but that does not mean that it is not a sin, and especially so since the Popes, Fathers, Saints, and Doctors of the Church throughout the ages opposed marital relations without the intent to procreate. This thus seems to be the Catholic Tradition from the beginning.

There are however, many quotations that address this question directly from the Fathers and early writers. The Holy Fathers and Church Tradition (in all the quotes we’ve found on the subject) unanimously teach that sexual activity during the infertile period of pregnancy as well as menstruation should be avoided at all times since it is unnatural and unreasonable to sow one’s seed when one “awaits the harvest.”

Athenagoras the Athenian (c. 175 A.D.): “After throwing the seed into the ground, the farmer awaits the harvest. He does not sow more seed on top of it. Likewise, to us the procreation of children is the limit of our indulgence in appetite.” (A Plea For the Christians, Chapter XXXIII.--Chastity of the Christians with Respect to Marriage)

Nature itself tells us through our inborn instinct that it is unreasonable and unnatural to sow a seed in the same place where a seed is already growing.

In reference to the same issue, St. Clement of Alexandria (c. 195 A.D.) writes: “To…a spiritual man, after conception, his wife is as a sister and is treated as if of the same father.” (The Stromata or Miscellanies, Book VI, Chapter XII) St. Augustine, in his book On The Good of Marriage (A.D. 401), likewise agreed with the Church’s tradition that performing the marital act during pregnancy is unreasonable and unnatural since “necessary sexual intercourse for begetting [of children] is free from blame, and itself is alone worthy of marriage. But that which goes beyond this necessity [of begetting children] no longer follows reason but lust…” (Section 11) He also taught that marital relations during pregnancy is “the sin of the persons, not the fault of marriage.”

St. Augustine, On the Good of Marriage, Section 5, A.D. 401: “There are also men incontinent to that degree, that they spare not their wives even when pregnant. Therefore whatever that is immodest, shameless, base, married persons do one with another, is the sin of the persons, not the fault of marriage.”

“Above all, no one should know his wife when Sunday or other feasts come around. Similar precautions should be taken as often as women menstruate, for the Prophet says: ‘Do not come near to a menstruous woman.’ [Ezech. 18:6]… Truly, brethren, if animals without intellect do not touch each other except at a fixed and proper time, how much more should men who have been created according to God’s image observe this? What is worse, there are some dissolute or drunken men who sometimes do not even spare their wives when they are pregnant. Therefore, if they do not amend their lives, we are to consider them worse than animals. Such men the Apostle addresses when he says: ‘Every one of you learn how to possess his vessel in holiness and honor, not in the passion of lust like the Gentiles who have no hope.’ [1 Thess. 4:4-5]” (St. Caesarius of Arles, Sermon 44:7)

Two activities recommended by some heretical NFP teachers are having sex during menstruation and during pregnancy, both of which the earliest extant Church Canons, the Apostolic Constitutions (c. 375 A.D.), specifically reject: “When the natural purgations do appear in the wives, let not their husbands approach them, out of regard to the children to be begotten; for the law has forbidden it, for it says: "Thou shalt not come near thy wife when she is in her separation." [Lev. xviii. 19; Ezek. xviii. 6.] Nor, indeed, let them frequent their wives’ company when they are with child. For they do this not for the begetting of children, but for the sake of pleasure. Now a lover of God ought not to be a lover of pleasure.” (The Sacred Writings of Apostolic Teaching and Constitutions, Book V, Chap. XXVIII.)

St. Clement of Alexandria, On Marriage and Procreation (c. 198-203 A.D.): “Right from the beginning the law, as we have already said, lays down the command, “Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife,” [Ex. 20:17] long before the Lord’s closely similar utterance in the New Testament, where the same idea is expressed in his own mouth: “You have heard that the law commanded, Thou shalt not commit adultery. But I say, Thou shalt not lust.” [Matt. 5:27-28] That the law intended husbands to cohabit with their wives with self-control and only for the purpose of begetting children is evident… For this reason you could not point to any place in Scripture where one of the ancients approached a pregnant woman; later, after the child is born and weaned, you might find that marriage relations of husbands and wives were resumed. You will find that Moses’ father kept this principle in mind. After Aaron’s birth three years passed before Moses was born. [Ex. 7:7] Again, the tribe of Levi observed this law of nature given by God, although they were fewer in number than any others which came into the promised land. [Num. 3:39] For a tribe does not easily grow to great numbers if their men have intercourse only within the legal marriage relationship and then wait until the end not only of pregnancy but also of breast-feeding.” (The Stromata or Miscellanies, Book III, Chapter XI, Section 71, 72)

The primary end of marriage is of course the procreation and education of Children:

Pope Pius XI, Casti Connubii (# 17), Dec. 31, 1930: “The primary end of marriage is the procreation and the education of children.”

But Pius XI did not teach that a couple could designedly restrict the marriage act only to the infertile periods to avoid a pregnancy, as in the mortally sinful practice of Natural Family Planning. When a deliberate plan is made in having relations only during the infertile periods, while avoiding having relations during the known fertile periods, the mortal sin of contraception occurs.

That being said, marital relations during pregnancy (and menstruation) should of course be avoided.

For instance, it was forbidden and a capital offense for spouses to have marital relations during the wife’s infertile monthly cycle during the Old Covenant era.

Leviticus 20:18: “If any man lie with a woman in her flowers, and uncover her nakedness, and she open the fountain of her blood, both shall be destroyed out of the midst of their people.

We read in the Old Testament that God had forbidden the marital act by separating the wife from her husband during the infertile monthly menstrual cycle of the woman. Leviticus 15:19: “The woman, who at the return of the month, hath her issue of blood, shall be separated seven days.” Haydock Commentary explains further: “Days, not only out of the camp, but from the company of men.” As soon as a woman shows signs of infertility, intercourse would cease. “Thou shalt not approach to a woman having her flowers: neither shalt thou uncover her nakedness.” (Leviticus 18:19) Haydock Commentary adds: “Saint Augustine believes that this law is still in force. [On Leviticus 20:18] This intemperance was by a positive law declared a mortal offence of the Jews.”

This wondrous law from God not only diminished the time a couple could have marital relations, but it also prohibited the women from the company of men, and this certainly includes her husband. What was God’s reason for separating the woman from her man you might ask? In truth, God who knows more about human weaknesses and sins than all of humanity combined ordained this so that the temptation to violate His laws and have marital relations during this period would not happen. For most temptations work like this: as long as you take away the source of the temptation, it will always be easier to control.

Another reason why God made this wondrous law was so that a couple would have marital relations less frequently, which in turn would help them get stronger in resisting and conquering sexual temptations of different kinds. For as we have seen already, those who indulge in the marital act too often or unreasonably commits a sin of gluttony of sorts in the marital act, and will fall more easily into other sins since they do not order their actions in accordance with right reason, instead perversely choosing to order their actions in accordance to their unmortified and sensual desires like animals or brute beasts without any reason.

Thus, St. Ambrose (c. 340-397) could rightly declare that it is shameful to continue to have sexual relations after pregnancy, and that those people who do this act “contaminate the former [the child] and exasperate the latter [God]”: “Youths generally assert the desire of having children and think to excuse the heat of their age by the desire for generation. How much more shameful for the old to do what is shameful for the young to confess. For even the young who temper their hearts to prudence by divine fear, generally renounce the works of youth when progeny [offspring] have been received. And is this remarkable for man, if beasts mutely speak a zeal for generating, not a desire for copulating? Indeed, once they know the womb is filled, and the seed received by the generative soil, they no longer indulge in intercourse or the wantonness of love, but they take up parental care. Yet men spare neither the embryo nor God. They contaminate the former and exasperate the latter. "Before I formed you in the womb," He says, "I knew you and sanctified you in your mother’s womb." [Jer. 1:5] To control your impatience, note the hands of your Author forming a man in the womb. He is at work, and you stain with lust the secret of the sacred womb? Imitate the beast or fear God. Why do I speak of beasts? The land itself often rests from the work of generating, and if it is often filled with the seeds thrown by the impatient eagerness of men, it repays the shamelessness of the farmer and changes fertility to sterility. So even in the elements and the beasts it is a shame to nature not to cease from generating.” (St. Ambrose, Archbishop of Milan, Exposition of the Gospel According to St. Luke 1:43-45)

St. Clement of Alexandria, On Marriage and Procreation (c. 198-203 A.D.): “Far more excellent, in my opinion, than the seeds of wheat and barley that are sown at appropriate seasons, is man that is sown, for whom all things grow; and those seeds temperate husbandmen ever sow. Every foul and polluting practice must therefore be purged away from marriage; that the intercourse of the irrational animals may not be cast in our teeth, as more accordant with nature than human conjunction in procreation. Some of these, it must be granted, desist at the time in which they are directed, leaving creation to the working of Providence.” (The Stromata or Miscellanies, Book II, Chapter XXIII)

Origen (c. 184-254), Homilies on Genesis, Homily V, Section 4, On Lot And His Daughters: “Let the married women examine themselves and seek if they approach their husbands for this reason alone [for having children], that they might receive children, and after conception desist. For those women... when they have attained conception, [rightly] do not later assent to copulation with a man. But some women, for we do not censure all equally, but there are some who serve passion incessantly, like animals without any distinction, whom I would not even compare to the dumb beasts. For even the beasts themselves know, when they have conceived, not to further grant opportunity to their males. The divine Scriptures also censures such when it says: "Do not become like the [sterile] horse and the mule who have no understanding," [Ps. 31:9] and again, "They have become stallions." [Jer. 5:8] But, O people of God, "who love Christ in incorruption," [Eph. 6:24] understand the word of the Apostle in which he says: "Whether you eat or drink or whatever else you do, do all to the glory of God." [1 Cor. 10:31] For his remark after eating and drinking, "whatever else you do," has designated with a modest word the immodest affairs of marriage, showing that even these acts themselves are performed to the glory of God if they are attended to with a view to posterity [offspring] alone.”

“In fact, a good Christian should not only observe chastity for a few days before he communicates, [that is, before he receives the Holy Eucharist] but he should never know his wife except from the desire for children. A man takes a wife for the procreation of children, not for the sake of lust. Even the marriage rite mentions this: ‘For the procreation of children,’ it says. Notice that it does not say for the sake of lust, but ‘for the procreation of children.’ I would like to know, dearly beloved, what kind of a harvest a man could gather if he sowed his field in one year as often as he is overcome by dissipation and abuses his wife without any desire for children. If those who are unwilling to control themselves plowed and sowed repeatedly their land which was already sown, let us see in what kind of fruit they would rejoice. As you well know, no land can produce proper fruit if it is sown frequently in one year. Why, then, does a man do with his body what he does not want done with his field?” (St. Caesarius of Arles, Sermon44:3)

It must also be made perfectly clear that natural infertility during pregnancy on the part of the woman is not a reward for the spouses to have “great sex” because they were “good” in fulfilling the marital duty (the procreation and education of children), as so many people today nowadays actually (and falsely) seem to believe.

It is reasonable to conclude that if women were not infertile during pregnancy, many bad husbands would be endangering the life of their wives by exposing them to too many childbirths at too short time intervals. Consequently, if women were not infertile during pregnancy, many more mortal sins would be committed by married and unmarried men since they then would be inclined to seek relief of their fleshly lusts in other ways or by other women, so as not to endanger the life of their own wife or mistresses.

Indeed, to St. Jerome and the rest of the Saints and Fathers of the Church, the indulgence permitted in the marital act was not something good or praiseworthy because it only acts as a relief valve to avoid a greater evil: “Thus it must be bad to touch a woman. If indulgences is nonetheless granted to the marital act, this is only to avoid something worse. But what value can be recognized in a good that is allowed only with a view of preventing something worse?

The main difference between Natural Infertility due to old age, or due to defects, compared with the infertility during pregnancy, is that in the first two, if God so wills, He may open the womb of the infertile due to old age, or due to defects, as we can read happening many times in the Bible. But in the third case, when a wife is pregnant, she cannot become pregnant again - according to the natural order God has established - and that’s really the main difference between the two. However, it’s a fact that it was ordained in the Old Testament for couples to abstain from each other during the wife’s menstrual period. St. Augustine even thought this law still applies to us today. The best option is of course to remain chaste during the wife’s pregnancy, since there is no chance of her becoming pregnant again. Anne Catherine Emmerich had the following interesting points to say about marital relations during pregnancy:

“It was explained to me here that the Blessed Virgin was begotten by her parents in holy obedience and complete purity of heart, and that thereafter they lived together in continence in the greatest devoutness and fear of God. I was at the same time clearly instructed how immeasurably the holiness of children was encouraged by the purity, chastity, and continence of their parents and by their resistance to all unclean temptations; and how continence after conception preserves the fruit of the womb from many sinful impulses. In general, I was given an overflowing abundance of knowledge about the roots of deformity and sin.” (Anne Catherine Emmerich, Life of the Blessed Virgin Mary)

Many lustful people will not agree with what Anne Catherine Emmerich said above, and some may even be offended by it. This is so because these people want to deceive themselves into thinking that there is nothing wrong at all about lust or concupiscence (even though it’s a known fact that it leads countless of souls to Hell). It’s a fact that the sexual lusts and the sexual temptations that urges people into committing sins of the flesh is an evil product from the fall, and of Original Sin. In other words, it was not originally intended to happen in this way according to God’s perfect plan for mankind, but it ended up in that way because of Adam’s and Eve’s transgression. St. Augustine explains it thus: “… lust, which only afterwards sprung up as the penal consequence of [original] sin, the iniquity of violating it was all the greater in proportion to the ease with which it might have been kept.” (City of God, Book XIV, Chapter 12). Thus, if a person is honest with himself, he will understand that this is true. However, most people want to deceive themselves and therefore choose to overlook this fact.

Another instance of the truth that marital relations during pregnancy is bad can be found in The Revelations of St. Bridget Book 9 or appendix. St. Bridget asks a man (whom in fact was her own husband) that is now in purgatory about the specific reasons why he escaped eternal hell. This is the third reason why he escaped hell: “The third [reason] is that I obeyed my teacher who advised me to abstain from my wife’s bed when I understood that she was pregnant.”

Thus, it is totally clear from above that those who have marital relations during pregnancy are endangering their own and their child’s spiritual welfare. However, the above passage was not a divine condemnation of relations during pregnancy as we had previously thought and written in our sexual pleasure and lust article, but it clearly indicates that there can be a danger spiritually in having relations during the time of pregnancy.

It is not a sin of contraception to engage in the marital act during the known infertile period provided the known fertile period has not been deliberately frustrated in order to prevent conception, either by inhibiting it by the use of birth control pills or some other contraception method or avoiding it by the use of Natural Family Planning. If the spouses know conception cannot take place, and they did not deliberately plan to prevent conception, they can perform the marital act without committing any sin of contraception provided they desire having children. This does not rule out other sins that can occur during the marital act, such as using it to excite or inflame lust instead of quelling lust, or using it in an unnatural and abusive manner. These sins can be committed even when childbearing is a goal of the marital act.

Therefore, even when the spouses engage in the marital act to quell concupiscence during known infertile periods, they must still desire and hope to have children if God wills they should have children. The act must still have as its primary goal the conception of children, which means to be open to all new life and not hindering it from taking place in any way, even though the spouses believe conception cannot occur. In this way the quelling of concupiscence is subordinate to the primary end of the act, which is childbearing.

One must really marvel over how the members of the Christian Church, (who should be more virtuous than the people of the Jewish Old Testament religion), have fallen into this degraded and filthy custom of having marital relations during a woman’s pregnancy or menstrual period. The Old Law was only a shell and a sign of the future things in the New Law, and even the Old Law forbade marital relations on many more occasions than the New Law does. The reason of why the Old Law forbade things that now are not sinful is because in the New Law, Our Lord wants us to do many good things, not because we are forced to do it, but only because we know that they are good in themselves, which is a more virtuous and meritorious act. Christian spouses should act more virtuously than those who lived in the Old Law, since all Christians have received more graces and knowledge of Our Lord than those in the Old Law, and it is really a blemish on the Christian community that this is not happening. The amount of graces that will be lost because of these filthy acts of lustful spouses is, sad to say, immeasurable and inestimable.

Lust is indeed bad. St. Augustine even goes so far as to call concupiscence evil and a disease (although not evil in the generative aspect). Yes, he even shares a point we have thought could be true, namely, that Original Sin is transmitted through Lust.

St. Augustine: “Wherefore the devil holds infants guilty [through original sin] who are born, not of the good by which marriage is good, but of the evil of concupiscence [lust], which, indeed, marriage uses aright, but at which even marriage has occasion to feel shame.” (On Marriage and Concupiscence Book 1, Chapter 27).

St. Augustine: “This disease of concupiscence is what the apostle refers to, when, speaking to married believers, he says: ‘This is the will of God, even your sanctification, that you should abstain from fornication: that every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honor; not in the disease of desire, even as the Gentiles which know not God.’ (1 Thessalonians 4:3-5). The married believer, therefore, must not only not use another man’s vessel, which is what they do who lust after others’ wives; but he must know that even his own vessel is not to be possessed in the disease of carnal concupiscence.” (On Marriage and Concupiscence Book 1, Chapter 9).

Adultery, fornication and masturbation are examples of bad and damnable lust. Lust is also an evil in marriage, and can easily turn into something damnable if husband and wife goes too far (as sadly happens with most couples today, even by those who call themselves Catholic). Just because it’s licit to perform the marriage act for procreative purposes in marriage, does not make the lust caused thereof good or praiseworthy. St. Augustine explains this point further:

“Forasmuch, then, as the good of marriage could not be lost by the addition of this evil [lust]... Since, therefore, marriage effects some good even out of that evil, it has whereof to glory; but since the good cannot be effected without the evil, it has reason for feeling shame. The case may be illustrated by the example of a lame man. Suppose him to attain to some good object by limping after it, then, on the one hand, the attainment itself is not evil because of the evil of the man’s lameness; nor, on the other hand, is the lameness good because of the goodness of the attainment. So, on the same principle, we ought not to condemn marriage because of the evil of lust; nor must we praise lust because of the good of marriage.” (On Marriage and Concupiscence Book 1, Chapter 8).

Sexual temptations during lawful procreative relations can also be a cause of sin since it may drive a husband and wife to go farther than what is necessary or licit, either during, before or after the marital act, and this, of course, is also a great evil. These temptations, as we have seen, does not turn into something good just because a person is married, for he is still tempted into committing sins. This is one of the very reasons why lust and sexual temptations are bad, also in marriage, for they are still defects, and are still occasions of sin and an evil product from the fall, a product from original sin.

Temptations are thus not something good, but are truly “unclean temptations” as described above by Anne Catherine Emmerich and the “evil of concupiscence” or “this disease of concupiscence” as stated above by St. Augustine. If a person understands these concepts and agrees with them (that a couple’s sensual behavior during their child’s pregnancy could effect their child in a negative way, inflicting sinful impulses upon the child) only then will he or she be able to understand and agree with what Anne Catherine Emmerich said above. The wisdom by Anne Catherine Emmerich is worth quoting again:

“It was explained to me here that the Blessed Virgin was begotten by her parents in holy obedience and complete purity of heart, and that thereafter they lived together in continence in the greatest devoutness and fear of God. I was at the same time clearly instructed how immeasurably the holiness of children was encouraged by the purity, chastity, and continence of their parents and by their resistance to all unclean temptations; and how continence after conception preserves the fruit of the womb from many sinful impulses. In general, I was given an overflowing abundance of knowledge about the roots of deformity and sin.” (Anne Catherine Emmerich, Life of the Blessed Virgin Mary)

The sensuality that thus will be aroused during pregnancy is a great evil that will be affecting both husband and wife, and their future child. Relations during pregnancy can also sometimes be dangerous to the child, and could lead to a premature birth. So however one looks at it, the best option is to practice abstinence. And if a person claims that he cannot do this, how then will he manage when either one of the spouses dies?

If spouses wishes to nurture virtue, and if there is a mutual consent for abstaining from marital relations, then both husband and wife can separate from each other any amount of time they decide, in order to cultivate virtue and evangelical perfection. We pray and beg that all may consider to do this from time to time. With all these facts in consideration, the most prudent thing is obviously to remain chaste during the whole duration of the pregnancy, in order to nurture virtue in yourself and your future children.


Another fault we have made is that we have had videos promoting Most Holy Family Monastery and their homepage and have had their links on various places on our sites without telling people that we did not agree with them on everything and without making it known to others what they (MHFM) believed wrong, thus indicating to others that we may have agreed with them or shared their beliefs. Peter and Michael Dimond are sadly heretics for obstinately holding to the position that a person is perfectly free to go to a heretical priest (whom they know to be a heretical priest that crucify our Lord) for the sacraments of the Eucharist and Confession. We have tried to correct them on this matter. We even wrote an entire article (also here; and a newer one here refuting their strongest arguments) refuting their false position, but they have not changed their position.


We also thought before (and taught this opinion to others) that a woman need to cover her hair at all times, but we now understand that this was only a commandment for when they are in the Church. We also understand that God wants women to cover their hair at all times, but this is not an absolute command that all have to follow under pain of mortal sin, as we before erroneously thought.


We also promoted Antipope John Paul II as a true “Pope” for a while on our homepage about 3-4 years ago (2008-2009). We wrote that he had proclaimed St. Bridget patron Saint of Europe. At that time we were not fully aware of the current Vatican II apostasy or the heresies of the last 5 “Popes“ (John XXIII, Paul VI, John Paul I, John Paul II, and now Benedict XVI). Since they are/were Antipopes, whatever they do is not binding (valid) and therefore has no authority whatsoever. If you are unaware of the actual heresies of Vatican II or the Antipopes, please feel free to watch the videos and read the articles on our site exposing them. Only a liar can watch these films/read these articles and still claim that they are/were true popes.


We also said in our most recent Hell video on our homepage that those “who did not read the word of God daily” would go to Hell. This is true of course, in so far that those who refuse to seek God during their life will burn in the next life. But it should not be understood in an absolute sense, just like the Bible says that all have sinned, yet we know that Our Lord and Our Mother never sinned. The context was about obstinate people who refused to read the word of God, or other holy writings of Saints, and those people who read (or pray) very seldom, and who otherwise was very lukewarm in the service of God and in seeking Him during their lives. We hope no one misunderstood this.


With that being said, this article will be updated again if we ever notice any other faults that we may have taught. And if we are wrong on something, please do not hesitate to contact us about it. We will gladly change and submit to the teaching and authority of our Holy Mother Church, whenever we are in contradiction with Her. For to err is human, but to continue to err after correction, is demonic.

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